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About Full Mutuality
Full Mutuality provides written and podcast content designed to shine a light on inequalities in various areas of society, particularly in Evangelical Christianity. Hosted by Gail and Nate, the Full Mutuality podcast features conversations about these inequalities and explores ways that justice can be brought into spaces where oppression, marginalization, and inequality run rampant.
Both former Evangelical ministers, Gail and Nate share a unique perspective as having been fully devoted adherents while slowly coming to the realization that certain groups of people are left without a seat at the table.
Some of Our Favorite Episodes
S2E11: Beyond Abortion: The Need for Reproductive Justice — with Kimberly Mutcherson
Professor of Law Kimberly Mutcherson joins Gail and Nate to discuss the history of abortion access in the US, the current landscape of women's healthcare, and the need for reproductive justice in the pro-choice conversation. Professor Mutcherson was the former co-host of the Anthem-Award-winning podcast— The Power of Attorney —which is produced by Rutgers Law School . Follow Professor M...
S2E06: Jews for Jesus, Messianic Jews, & Other Christian Falsehoods About Judaism — with Rabbi Ariann Weitzman
Rabbi Ariann Weitzman spends some time addressing a few of the common misconceptions Christians have about Jews and educating us about the relationship between the two religions. This insightful conversation is among our favorite episodes, and we hope you find it as helpful and informative as we did! Bnai Keshet Reconstructionist Synagogue Four Common Misunderstandings about Judaism ---...
S2E05: Bob Jones University Will Never Do Right — with Christopher Peterman
On this episode we are joined by Christopher Peterman, a former student at Bob Jones University who organized the first ever student-run protest at BJU. Chris shares his own story of abuse at BJU and the severe trauma that motivated him to stand up to the administration at the self-proclaimed "Fortress of Faith." Further Reading: "Bob Jones University Blamed Victims of Sexual Assaults, ...
S2E01: Apostasy at EVU — with Scott Okamoto
Scott Okamoto is back!!! And this time, he's bringing a book with him. The author of the newly released Asian American Apostate joins Gail and Nate to talk about his own journey that led to this book, his career as a professor at an Evangelical university, and how sorry he feels for English grammar perfectionists. Asian American Apostate : Bookshop.org Amazon Kobo Scott on the internet:...
S1E30: SEASON FINALE! Racism, Purity Culture, & the Asian American Identity — with Angie Kay Hong
On our Season 1 finale, Gail and Nate sit down with Angie Kay Hong, writer, worship leader, critical convener, and one of the co-founders of Kinship Commons . Angie discusses the different ways purity culture further targets women of color uniquely to how it targets White women. She also commiserates with Nate on their shared love for the comfort foods of their respective cultures. Foll...
S1E29: Asian Americans Only
On today's episode, Scott Okamoto from the Chapel Probation podcast co-hosts with Nate for a special Asian-American-themed episode. Nate and Scott are joined by Naomi Ko and May Lee-Yang , two of the co-founders of the Funny Asian Woman Kollective (FAWK). Naomi and May share about their work in comedy, their experiences as Asian-American women, and participate in a roundtable conversati...
S1E27: Asbury Revival Conspiracy
On February 23, 2023, the Asbury "revival services" will reach their climactic conclusion as men like Francis Chan, Rick Warren, and worship leaders from the International House of Prayer descend onto the stage of Hughes Auditorium on the campus of Asbury University in the small rural community of Wilmore, Kentucky. Many are in awe of the seeming spontaneity of these services, which beg...
S1E24: Onward Christian Soldiers — with Dr. Brad Onishi
Nate and Gail are joined by Dr. Brad Onishi, expert on Christian nationalism and the history of White Evangelicalism. Brad is one of the hosts of the Straight White American Jesus podcast, a religion and politics show that analyzes the Christian nationalist movement in the United States. Brad's new book, Preparing for War: The Extremist History of White Christian Nationalism–And What Co...
S1E22: Hillsong on Trial — with Tanya Levin
Former Hillsong Church member and author of the book People in Glass Houses: An Insider's Story of a Life In and Out of Hillsong Tanya Levin sits down with Gail and Nate to talk about her experience at Hillsong in Australia from its founding and what she has learned in the years since. Tanya is also the host of the popular podcast Leaving Hillsong , where she regularly features the stor...
S1E21: How to Destroy a Megachurch — with Zach Malm
Musician and Co-Host of the podcast Veterans of Culture Wars Zach Malm joins Gail and Nate to share the story of his involvement at the infamous Mars Hill Church and how he helped to bring it down. The wide-ranging conversation delves into his experience with the disgraced pastor Mark Driscoll and the stories that made up the website We Love Mars Hill . You can find all of Zach's podcas...
S1E20: Intersexion — with Cynthia Vacca Davis
English professor and author Cynthia Vacca Davis joins Gail and Nate to discuss her new book, Intersexion , Her book tells the dual narrative of Danny, an intersex AFAB man who was born and raised in a conservative Christian environment, and Cynthia herself, facing the forfeiture of her dream job thanks to a Christian university's stance on LGBTQIA+ people. To purchase Cynthia's book, v...
S1E19: Predatory God — with Jo Luehmann
Educator and writer Jo Luehmann joins Nate and Gail to discuss her work in deconstructing and decolonizing Christianity. The conversation follows a wide range of topics, from harmful practices of the church to adoption and foster care to abortion and education. Jo: •Website | joluehmann.com •TikTok | @joluehmann •Twitter | @joluehmann •Instagram | @joluehmann •Facebook | fb.com/jo...
S1E18: The Wrong Kind of Christian — with Scott Okamoto
Scott Okamoto, host of the podcast Chapel Probation, joins Nate and Gail to talk about his own faith deconstruction while working as an English professor at the conservative Evangelical school Azusa Pacific University. Scott: •Website: rscottokamoto.com •Podcast: chapelprobation.dauntless.fm •Instagram: @rsokamoto •Twitter: @rsokamoto •Blog Post: "I Don't Miss God. Really!" •Scott...
S1E17: Deconstructing the Evangelical Sexual Ethic — with Jenn Alynn-Perri
Jenn Alynn-Perri joins Gail and Nate for a conversation about how purity culture oppresses healthy sexual expressions and promotes a harmful sexual ethic. Jenn: • Facebook • Instagram • Twitter Resources mentioned in the episode: • Pride Link •S C Upstate LGBT+ Chamber of Commerce •Bored Panda Article: "Victims Who Were Told That Their Clothing Got Them Sexual...
S1E16: BJU & Me: Queer Voices from the World's Most Christian University — with Lance Weldy & Peter Crane
Lance Weldy and Peter Crane join Nate and Gail to discuss their stories of life as gay people at Bob Jones University. Lance's forthcoming book, BJU & Me: Queer Voices from the World's Most Christian University, is a compilation of stories of many LGBTQ+ people who attended the conservative fundamentalist Christian university based in Greenville, SC Pre-order the book: University of...
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